Individual soul liberty is also know as soul competency. The underlying concept is that each person is responsible for their own faith and walk with the Lord. Whether or not one is saved is determined solely by the individual. Parents, family, friends, government, religious leaders, religious affiliation, and any other host of things that one could use to determine if they are saved, are of no importance. Neither can those things force you to be saved.
Each individual has exclusive choice in matters of faith: what they believe, how they act, how they interpret the Scriptures, and etc. Each person is accountable to God alone for their choices. Only the individual can make these choices, so therefore only the individual is accountable to God for them. For example, let's take one's parents to see how this relates. The fact that your parents are saved does not mean you are saved. You have to make the choice of your own accord. Likewise, if you choose not to believe in Jesus Christ, your parents will not be held accountable for your choice. Even if your parents weren't saved, they would not be held accountable because it is your choice, not theirs. A few verses that are used as a basis of this doctrine are:
Romans 14
10. But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
11. For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
12. So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God.
2 Corinthians 5
10. For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.
Jeremiah 31
29. In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge.
30. But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge.
Ezekiel 18
2. What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge?
3. As I live, saith the Lord GOD, ye shall not have occasion any more to use this proverb in Israel.
4. Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
5. But if a man be just, and do that which is lawful and right,
(skip to verse 9)
9. Hath walked in my statutes, and hath kept my judgments, to deal truly; he is just, he shall surely live, saith the Lord GOD.
To sum it up. Each person is free (at liberty) to choose what is right, as determined by their soul (or conscience), and is solely accountable to God alone. Hence "Soul Liberty".
Monday, December 1, 2008
Tuesday, November 25, 2008
Two Ordinances (Believer's Baptism & Lord's Supper)
The first thing that should be said about these two ordinances is that neither is a requirement for salvation. The only requirement for salvation is accepting the free gift of grace by truly believing in Jesus Christ. It is one thing to believe that Jesus was a man who lived, preached, and was crucified on the cross. It is a totally different thing to believe he was God in the flesh, came down to atone for the world's sins, was raised again the third day, and then give your life totally to Him.
Baptists see the Lord's Supper and Believer's Baptism as ordinances, not Sacraments. Sacrament is defined as "a rite in which God is uniquely active." This meaning that the performance of this rite bestows something from God upon the individual. Baptists, in general, as well as most Protestants, do not believe in Sacraments, but rather follow only these two ordinances. Ordinance being something that was ordained by Jesus Christ, as evidenced in the Bible.
That being said, Believer's Baptism is just that, the full immersion baptism AFTER one has been saved. It is merely a public display of our commitment to follow Jesus Christ. The baptism symbolizes Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection. For anyone who thinks that baptism is a requirement for salvation, please recall the thief on the cross in Luke 23:
42. And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
43. And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.
He was not baptized, yet Jesus told him "Today shalt thou be with me in paradise". It was faith that saved him.
The Lord's Supper account is found in the three synoptic Gospels: Matthew 26, Mark 14, & Luke 22. Baptists typically use 1 Corinthians 11:23~32 for the basis for the Lord's Supper. Again, it is for Believer's only, and one should examine themselves prior to participating to make sure they are right with God, and worthy to partake:
1 Cor. 11
27. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
28. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
29. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
30. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.
31. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
32. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.
I don't believe this is saying that someone who is saved will be damned for participating if they aren't right in their walk with the Lord, but rather that one who participates, knowing they are not truly saved, blasphemes the Lord to their damnation.
As mentioned, this act does not save us, it is merely us following the ordinance given to us from Jesus:
1 Cor. 11
24. And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
25. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
26. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
Basically, were are honoring Jesus, as he commanded, and professing our faith and belief in his atoning death, and the promise of resurrection, which was first evidenced through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior.
Baptists see the Lord's Supper and Believer's Baptism as ordinances, not Sacraments. Sacrament is defined as "a rite in which God is uniquely active." This meaning that the performance of this rite bestows something from God upon the individual. Baptists, in general, as well as most Protestants, do not believe in Sacraments, but rather follow only these two ordinances. Ordinance being something that was ordained by Jesus Christ, as evidenced in the Bible.
That being said, Believer's Baptism is just that, the full immersion baptism AFTER one has been saved. It is merely a public display of our commitment to follow Jesus Christ. The baptism symbolizes Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection. For anyone who thinks that baptism is a requirement for salvation, please recall the thief on the cross in Luke 23:
42. And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
43. And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.
He was not baptized, yet Jesus told him "Today shalt thou be with me in paradise". It was faith that saved him.
The Lord's Supper account is found in the three synoptic Gospels: Matthew 26, Mark 14, & Luke 22. Baptists typically use 1 Corinthians 11:23~32 for the basis for the Lord's Supper. Again, it is for Believer's only, and one should examine themselves prior to participating to make sure they are right with God, and worthy to partake:
1 Cor. 11
27. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
28. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
29. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
30. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.
31. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
32. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.
I don't believe this is saying that someone who is saved will be damned for participating if they aren't right in their walk with the Lord, but rather that one who participates, knowing they are not truly saved, blasphemes the Lord to their damnation.
As mentioned, this act does not save us, it is merely us following the ordinance given to us from Jesus:
1 Cor. 11
24. And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
25. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
26. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
Basically, were are honoring Jesus, as he commanded, and professing our faith and belief in his atoning death, and the promise of resurrection, which was first evidenced through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior.
Thursday, November 20, 2008
P-Priesthood of the Believer
Every believer is to be priest for God. This is, at the very least, a twofold proposition.
As you may recall from the Old Testament, the holy of holies was the place of the presence of God in the temple. It was separated by an extremely heavy curtain, or veil. The high priest only went into the presence of God one day per year, this being on the day of atonement. The veil was torn from top to bottom at the very moment of the death of Jesus Christ on the cross. His sacrificial death, having atoned for the sins of the world, meant we no longer needed a priest, or anyone else, to represent us, but rather we could enter directly into the presence of God through faith and prayer. Hebrews 7:22~27 talks about how we do not need a priest to intercede for us, because Jesus has become our eternal priest and paid the price once and for all:
22. By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.
23. And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:
24. But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.
25. Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
26. For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;
27. Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.
Furthermore, after Jesus' resurrection, he gave us what is called "The Great Commission". It is found in Matthew 28:18~20
18. And Jesus came and spake unto them saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20. Teaching them to observe all thing whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
This second portion of priesthood is the where we tell others about Jesus Christ, about what he has done for us, and what he can do for others. This does not mean we do not need pastors. We have pastors for congregational leadership and guidance, but they are by no means to be the only people appointed to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Every believer had the right, privilege, and duty, to tell others about the good news of eternal life through Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior.
As you may recall from the Old Testament, the holy of holies was the place of the presence of God in the temple. It was separated by an extremely heavy curtain, or veil. The high priest only went into the presence of God one day per year, this being on the day of atonement. The veil was torn from top to bottom at the very moment of the death of Jesus Christ on the cross. His sacrificial death, having atoned for the sins of the world, meant we no longer needed a priest, or anyone else, to represent us, but rather we could enter directly into the presence of God through faith and prayer. Hebrews 7:22~27 talks about how we do not need a priest to intercede for us, because Jesus has become our eternal priest and paid the price once and for all:
22. By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.
23. And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:
24. But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.
25. Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
26. For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;
27. Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.
Furthermore, after Jesus' resurrection, he gave us what is called "The Great Commission". It is found in Matthew 28:18~20
18. And Jesus came and spake unto them saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20. Teaching them to observe all thing whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
This second portion of priesthood is the where we tell others about Jesus Christ, about what he has done for us, and what he can do for others. This does not mean we do not need pastors. We have pastors for congregational leadership and guidance, but they are by no means to be the only people appointed to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Every believer had the right, privilege, and duty, to tell others about the good news of eternal life through Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior.
Tuesday, November 18, 2008
A-Autonomy of the Local Church
Autonomy of the local church is pretty straight-forward. It means that the local congregation is completely self-governed, and completely separate from all other congregations. As previously outlined, the Lord Jesus Christ is the head of the church, and Baptist congregations are accountable to Him alone. It does not report to, and is not governed by, any council, organization or other religious hierarchy. Local congregations may choose to participate in associations, such as The Southern Baptist Convention, American Baptist Churches USA, or in the case of independent Baptist congregations, with other local congregations. However, these affiliations, or other churches, may in no way determine the affairs, beliefs, or practices of the local congregation. This is right reserved for, and by, the autonomous local congregation.
Ephesians 1:20~23 confirms Jesus' role as head of the church:
20. Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
21. Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
22. And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be head over all things to the church.
23. Which is his body, the fulness (sic) of him that filleth all in all.
Ephesians 1:20~23 confirms Jesus' role as head of the church:
20. Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
21. Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
22. And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be head over all things to the church.
23. Which is his body, the fulness (sic) of him that filleth all in all.
Monday, November 17, 2008
B-Biblical Authority
Biblical authority is a relatively simple idea. It basically means that the Bible is our ultimate authority. When it comes to matters of faith or doctrine, the Bible is the first, last, and only word on the matter. That does not mean we do not look to those who are more knowledgeable to explain what the sacred scriptures say, but rather that the Bible is the final authority on all matters. Creeds, confessions, catechisms, and statements of faith are an attempt to categorize and summarize those doctrines found in the Bible, but are in no way superior to, or equal with, the truths found in the Bible. Neither are any rules or traditions of any church, pastor, or denomination.
The Bible is God's special revelation to mankind. There are two types of revelation: General Revelation and Special Revelation.
General revelation are those things generally seen or experienced by all mankind. For example, creation itself is general revelation. The order of the universe, the complexity of the human body, and the instincts of animals all provide proof that there was creator, as Psalm 19:1 states:
"The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork."
These things are not scientifically possible through the false pretense of evolution. Even Darwin admitted in his Origins of Species, Chapter 6-Difficulties of the Theory:
"To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree."
The scientific Law of Biogenesis states (in my own words) that life only comes from life. I've already posted more than my intended scope of this topic, but at least this gives you a place to start your own research.
Special revelation comes in many forms, such as the person of Jesus Christ (and the fulfilled prophecies concerning Him), visions, prophets, and the Bible, among many other forms. Baptists, as well as many other denominations, believe the Bible to be the literal, infallible, inerrant Word of God. This does not mean God physically wrote the Bible, but rather used men, though His inspiration, to write what he wanted us to know. II Timothy 3:16 states:
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"
However, there is some debate among those who hold to this truth. On one hand, some people believe that the Bible we have today is inerrant. Those who believe this use Psalm 12:6-7:
"The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever."
Others believe that the original transcripts were inerrant and infallible, but that the copies, over time, could have elements of human copyist errors.
I will not state my view on this debate, but I will suggest reading my previous post titled "King James Version Only? Yes!!!"
I do believe the Bible is the Word of God. It is my sole authority. The Reformation brought about a Latin phrase, sola scriptura, which means "by Scripture alone". Our source of truth should be found in the Scriptures alone. As mentioned previously, this does not discourage learning from other sources. Rather, it means that when anything is contrary to the Scriptures, or a question arises, the Bible IS the ultimate authority, and has THE final the word on any subject matter.
There's an old saying that states "The Bible says it, I believe it, and that settles it." As cheesy as this cliche may be, it is a basic stance for Baptists, as well as most fundamental Bible-believing Christians.
The Bible is God's special revelation to mankind. There are two types of revelation: General Revelation and Special Revelation.
General revelation are those things generally seen or experienced by all mankind. For example, creation itself is general revelation. The order of the universe, the complexity of the human body, and the instincts of animals all provide proof that there was creator, as Psalm 19:1 states:
"The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork."
These things are not scientifically possible through the false pretense of evolution. Even Darwin admitted in his Origins of Species, Chapter 6-Difficulties of the Theory:
"To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree."
The scientific Law of Biogenesis states (in my own words) that life only comes from life. I've already posted more than my intended scope of this topic, but at least this gives you a place to start your own research.
Special revelation comes in many forms, such as the person of Jesus Christ (and the fulfilled prophecies concerning Him), visions, prophets, and the Bible, among many other forms. Baptists, as well as many other denominations, believe the Bible to be the literal, infallible, inerrant Word of God. This does not mean God physically wrote the Bible, but rather used men, though His inspiration, to write what he wanted us to know. II Timothy 3:16 states:
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"
However, there is some debate among those who hold to this truth. On one hand, some people believe that the Bible we have today is inerrant. Those who believe this use Psalm 12:6-7:
"The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever."
Others believe that the original transcripts were inerrant and infallible, but that the copies, over time, could have elements of human copyist errors.
I will not state my view on this debate, but I will suggest reading my previous post titled "King James Version Only? Yes!!!"
I do believe the Bible is the Word of God. It is my sole authority. The Reformation brought about a Latin phrase, sola scriptura, which means "by Scripture alone". Our source of truth should be found in the Scriptures alone. As mentioned previously, this does not discourage learning from other sources. Rather, it means that when anything is contrary to the Scriptures, or a question arises, the Bible IS the ultimate authority, and has THE final the word on any subject matter.
There's an old saying that states "The Bible says it, I believe it, and that settles it." As cheesy as this cliche may be, it is a basic stance for Baptists, as well as most fundamental Bible-believing Christians.
Tuesday, November 11, 2008
BAPTIST
I will be posting on a regular basis for my Business Communications class over the next three weeks. The requirement is to post at least twice per week. Four weeks from now I will present my blog to the class. In addition, I will also present information regarding how one can market their blog, or use it to make money.
I have free reign to post about whatever topic I choose. I want this blog topic to be educational, so I will be blogging about the acronym BAPTIST:
Biblical authority
Autonomy of the local church
Priesthood of the believer
Two ordinances (Believer's Baptism and Lord's Supper)
Individual soul liberty
Separation of church and state
Two offices (Pastor and Deacon)
The preceding are something commonly called the "Baptist Distinctives". They are common doctrinal beliefs held by the vast majority of Baptists. Please keep in mind that these doctrinal viewpoints are by no means exclusive to Baptists. Many denominations hold to most, if not all, of these viewpoints, as do many non-denominational congregations.
Please also be aware that there is only one true Church: the Body of Christ. It is made up of people who are true believers in Jesus Christ. The buildings we call churches are actually congregations. A congregation consists of the building and the people who attend that place of worship. The people who attend may or may not be part of the Church. A congregation may or may not be affiliated with a denomination. A denomination is a group of congregations, under a particular religion, who basically believe the same things from doctrinal and traditional standpoints.
Before I get into the acronym, I feel I should first explain why I am a Baptist.
When I first asked Jesus Christ to be my Lord and Savior I was not attending any kind of church. I looked into many different denominations, and came to the conclusion that the Baptist faith was most closely related to the non-denominational congregation I attended as I was growing up. As I have mentioned in previous posts, our walk with the Lord is a quest for the truth. I perceive the Baptist faith to be closest to the truth. The emphasis placed on the Bible is one of my main reasons for this conclusion.
There is a plethora of information regarding where the Baptists originated from. Obviously, some of these historical records conflict. It is beyond the scope of this blog topic to delve into this issue. However, if you are curious, as I am, the following link will provide one fairly comprehensive history. Click on the link titled "Who Are Baptists". Then click on "Baptist Beginnings" at the bottom of the page.
http://www.baptisthistory.org/
I have free reign to post about whatever topic I choose. I want this blog topic to be educational, so I will be blogging about the acronym BAPTIST:
Biblical authority
Autonomy of the local church
Priesthood of the believer
Two ordinances (Believer's Baptism and Lord's Supper)
Individual soul liberty
Separation of church and state
Two offices (Pastor and Deacon)
The preceding are something commonly called the "Baptist Distinctives". They are common doctrinal beliefs held by the vast majority of Baptists. Please keep in mind that these doctrinal viewpoints are by no means exclusive to Baptists. Many denominations hold to most, if not all, of these viewpoints, as do many non-denominational congregations.
Please also be aware that there is only one true Church: the Body of Christ. It is made up of people who are true believers in Jesus Christ. The buildings we call churches are actually congregations. A congregation consists of the building and the people who attend that place of worship. The people who attend may or may not be part of the Church. A congregation may or may not be affiliated with a denomination. A denomination is a group of congregations, under a particular religion, who basically believe the same things from doctrinal and traditional standpoints.
Before I get into the acronym, I feel I should first explain why I am a Baptist.
When I first asked Jesus Christ to be my Lord and Savior I was not attending any kind of church. I looked into many different denominations, and came to the conclusion that the Baptist faith was most closely related to the non-denominational congregation I attended as I was growing up. As I have mentioned in previous posts, our walk with the Lord is a quest for the truth. I perceive the Baptist faith to be closest to the truth. The emphasis placed on the Bible is one of my main reasons for this conclusion.
There is a plethora of information regarding where the Baptists originated from. Obviously, some of these historical records conflict. It is beyond the scope of this blog topic to delve into this issue. However, if you are curious, as I am, the following link will provide one fairly comprehensive history. Click on the link titled "Who Are Baptists". Then click on "Baptist Beginnings" at the bottom of the page.
http://www.baptisthistory.org/
Wednesday, November 5, 2008
Business Communications
Yes, it has been a while since I have posted. I'm attending night school, and hunting season is here, so life has been busy. I have never posted on a regular basis, but that may change soon. I am in a Business Communications class, and I will probably blog for my class project. I still need to clarify whether I can blog about whatever I want, or if it needs to be related to Business Communications. I believe it can be about whatever I choose, so I already have a few topics in mind. I just need to decide which topic I want to blog about. I will need to post weekly over the next 6 weeks. If it is a topic of my choosing, then you can assume it will be somehow related to my usual conservative Christian viewpoint. My plan for this project is to be more informative, rather than controversial, so abortion, gay marriage, and other divisional topics are not included in the list. Please stay tuned.
Tuesday, September 23, 2008
Happy birthday to........Me
One year ago today I got on my knees and asked Jesus Christ to forgive me of my sins and be my savior.
Saturday, September 20, 2008
For the Record.....
The First Amendment does not contain "Separation of Church and State." This is the actual wording of the 1st Amendment:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
So where did this term come from. Actually, it has a long history. The Protestants in the reformation era, and subsequently the Baptists, have long supported Separation of Church and State; that being that the government needs to stay out of the affairs of the church. By no means was it ever meant to keep faith out of government. Rather, this nation was founded as a Christian nation. If you've never read the Mayflower Compact this is it:
In the name of God, Amen. We whose names are underwritten, the loyal subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord King James, by the Grace of God of Great Britain, France and Ireland, King, Defender of the Faith, etc.
Having undertaken, for the Glory of God and advancement of the Christian Faith and Honour of our King and Country, a Voyage to plant the First Colony in the Northern Parts of Virginia, do by these presents solemnly and mutually in the presence of God and one of another, Covenant and Combine ourselves together into a Civil Body Politic, for our better ordering and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute and frame such just and equal Laws, Ordinances, Acts, Constitutions and Offices, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the Colony, unto which we promise all due submission and obedience. In witness whereof we have hereunder subscribed our names at Cape Cod, the 11th of November, in the year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord King James, of England, France and Ireland the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth. Anno Domini 1620.
This was written before they disembarked from the vessel onto the shores of the New World. The main reason for the Puritans, Pilgrims and other Separatists coming over to the New World was to have religious freedom. While in England they suffered persecution for practicing their faith, rather than adhering to the Church of England's Catholic/Anglican religion.
The founding fathers had suffered enough persecution from the King of England to make sure they put freedom of religion (which I believe to mean all religions) in our U.S. Constitution. Their main concern was to ensure the government did not establish or impose a national religion (or denomination), or otherwise meddle in the affairs of the church.
Upon Thomas Jefferson election, the Danbury Baptists were concerned that the Constitution did not guarantee their right to freedom of religion, and wrote this letter to him:
Among the many millions in America and Europe who rejoice in your election to office, we embrace the first opportunity to express our great satisfaction in your appointment to the Chief Magistracy in the United States. We have reason to believe that America's God has raised you up to fill the Chair of State out of that goodwill which He bears to the millions which you preside over. May God strengthen you for the arduous task which providence and the voice of the people have called you. And may the Lord preserve you safe from every evil and bring you at last to his Heavenly Kingdom through Jesus Christ our Glorious Mediator.
Our sentiments are uniformly on the side of religious liberty: that religion is at all times and places a matter between God and individuals, that no man ought to suffer in name, person, or effects on account of his religious opinions, [and] that the legitimate power of civil government extends no further than to punish the man who works ill to his neighbor. But sir, our constitution of government is not specific. Therefore what religious privileges we enjoy (as a minor part of the State) we enjoy as favors granted, and not as inalienable rights.
Jefferson responded on January 1st, 1802 with the following:
Gentlemen,
The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me on behalf of the Danbury Baptist Association give me the highest satisfaction. Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God; that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship; that the legislative powers of government reach actions only and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church and State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties. I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection and blessing of the common Father and Creator of man, and tender you for yourselves and your religious association assurances of my high respect and esteem.
So, as you can see, Jefferson was a Christian, and he was in favor of keeping government out of the affairs of the church. This letter attests to that. Nowhere does it elude to keeping Christian values out of government. He obviously did not keep his faith separate from his Presidential appointment, nor did he apparently feel compelled to do so due to the 1st Amendment.
It was the courts that later took the phrase, out of context I might add, to declare the false governmental doctrine of Separation of Church and State. By the way, Jefferson was not involved with framing the 1st Amendment. A check of the Congressional Records (the documented discussions) from June 7 to September 25, 1789 would show this, as well as the fact that of the 90 founding fathers who did frame it, none of them ever mentioned the phrase "Separation of Church and State". Therefore, I do not believe this was ever their intent. Rather, I believe their intent was to ensure individual freedom of religion, without interference from the government, and to prohibit the government from establishing or imposing religion upon the people. It was not intended for the silencing of Christian values, or eliminating any and all references to Christianity in any form within public places, as we have seen this false doctrine evolve into.
And yes, this also applies to other religions, such as Muslim and Judaism, so please do not think I am concerned with maintaining only Christian rights. These rights are for all religions, though I do hope that Christianity will be more prevalent for the sake of my own personal beiefs.
I hope you have found this post informative and enlightening. There's plenty of sources online to research this further, but I mainly wanted to get down to the dirty facts, and try to dispel the false doctrine and misrepresentations of the Separation of Church and State crowd.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
So where did this term come from. Actually, it has a long history. The Protestants in the reformation era, and subsequently the Baptists, have long supported Separation of Church and State; that being that the government needs to stay out of the affairs of the church. By no means was it ever meant to keep faith out of government. Rather, this nation was founded as a Christian nation. If you've never read the Mayflower Compact this is it:
In the name of God, Amen. We whose names are underwritten, the loyal subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord King James, by the Grace of God of Great Britain, France and Ireland, King, Defender of the Faith, etc.
Having undertaken, for the Glory of God and advancement of the Christian Faith and Honour of our King and Country, a Voyage to plant the First Colony in the Northern Parts of Virginia, do by these presents solemnly and mutually in the presence of God and one of another, Covenant and Combine ourselves together into a Civil Body Politic, for our better ordering and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute and frame such just and equal Laws, Ordinances, Acts, Constitutions and Offices, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the Colony, unto which we promise all due submission and obedience. In witness whereof we have hereunder subscribed our names at Cape Cod, the 11th of November, in the year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord King James, of England, France and Ireland the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth. Anno Domini 1620.
This was written before they disembarked from the vessel onto the shores of the New World. The main reason for the Puritans, Pilgrims and other Separatists coming over to the New World was to have religious freedom. While in England they suffered persecution for practicing their faith, rather than adhering to the Church of England's Catholic/Anglican religion.
The founding fathers had suffered enough persecution from the King of England to make sure they put freedom of religion (which I believe to mean all religions) in our U.S. Constitution. Their main concern was to ensure the government did not establish or impose a national religion (or denomination), or otherwise meddle in the affairs of the church.
Upon Thomas Jefferson election, the Danbury Baptists were concerned that the Constitution did not guarantee their right to freedom of religion, and wrote this letter to him:
Among the many millions in America and Europe who rejoice in your election to office, we embrace the first opportunity to express our great satisfaction in your appointment to the Chief Magistracy in the United States. We have reason to believe that America's God has raised you up to fill the Chair of State out of that goodwill which He bears to the millions which you preside over. May God strengthen you for the arduous task which providence and the voice of the people have called you. And may the Lord preserve you safe from every evil and bring you at last to his Heavenly Kingdom through Jesus Christ our Glorious Mediator.
Our sentiments are uniformly on the side of religious liberty: that religion is at all times and places a matter between God and individuals, that no man ought to suffer in name, person, or effects on account of his religious opinions, [and] that the legitimate power of civil government extends no further than to punish the man who works ill to his neighbor. But sir, our constitution of government is not specific. Therefore what religious privileges we enjoy (as a minor part of the State) we enjoy as favors granted, and not as inalienable rights.
Jefferson responded on January 1st, 1802 with the following:
Gentlemen,
The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me on behalf of the Danbury Baptist Association give me the highest satisfaction. Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God; that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship; that the legislative powers of government reach actions only and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church and State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties. I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection and blessing of the common Father and Creator of man, and tender you for yourselves and your religious association assurances of my high respect and esteem.
So, as you can see, Jefferson was a Christian, and he was in favor of keeping government out of the affairs of the church. This letter attests to that. Nowhere does it elude to keeping Christian values out of government. He obviously did not keep his faith separate from his Presidential appointment, nor did he apparently feel compelled to do so due to the 1st Amendment.
It was the courts that later took the phrase, out of context I might add, to declare the false governmental doctrine of Separation of Church and State. By the way, Jefferson was not involved with framing the 1st Amendment. A check of the Congressional Records (the documented discussions) from June 7 to September 25, 1789 would show this, as well as the fact that of the 90 founding fathers who did frame it, none of them ever mentioned the phrase "Separation of Church and State". Therefore, I do not believe this was ever their intent. Rather, I believe their intent was to ensure individual freedom of religion, without interference from the government, and to prohibit the government from establishing or imposing religion upon the people. It was not intended for the silencing of Christian values, or eliminating any and all references to Christianity in any form within public places, as we have seen this false doctrine evolve into.
And yes, this also applies to other religions, such as Muslim and Judaism, so please do not think I am concerned with maintaining only Christian rights. These rights are for all religions, though I do hope that Christianity will be more prevalent for the sake of my own personal beiefs.
I hope you have found this post informative and enlightening. There's plenty of sources online to research this further, but I mainly wanted to get down to the dirty facts, and try to dispel the false doctrine and misrepresentations of the Separation of Church and State crowd.
Monday, August 25, 2008
New Bible
Picked up another Bible this weekend. It's a KJV of The New Defender's Study Bible with notes by Dr. Henry Morris of the Institute for Creation Research. I picked it up for $20 at Half-Price Books (List Price is $40). The cheapest on Amazon for a new one was $31+, so I got a pretty good deal. In addition to the Bible, I also picked up a Bible cover/case that has a fish with a line and hook in it's mouth, and the phrase "Even Jesus had a fish story". That was only $7. They had one that said:
"JESUS Said Go Fish!!"
(then a graphic of a fish)
"He did not say to rake the leaves, mow the lawn,
walk the dog, or change the oil. Matthew 4:19"
Unfortunately that one was not big enough for my Bible, so I went with the fish story one.
I still have at least one more Bible I want to get: a facsimile copy of the 1560 Geneva Bible. This was the first Bible translated into English entirely from the original languages. So, it's a version, and not a translation.
One thing I noticed was now that I'm reading the KJV I have a desire to memorize verses. That's not to say I didn't memorize verse before, when reading other translations, I did, but now I have an increased desire to do so. Maybe it's just because the language is very poetic. Maybe it's just coincidence that I realized how important is it at about the same time I started looking into the KJVO debate. The two verses that really struck me are:
Psalm 119:11-Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.
and
1 Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give and answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear 16) Having a good conscience, that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
By memorizing God's Word-hiding it in our hearts, what do we accomplish? For me, number one is that I can carry God's Word with me, even if I'm not carrying a Bible. As I read the Bible, and things start to stick, I carry it with me. Most of the time it's just the concept that sticks. However, when you memorize the verse, and something happens that brings that verse to mind, you can actually quote it to yourself and mediate on it right there, without having to look it up to get the wording right.
Secondly, when witnessing, it's more effective, in my opinion, to be able to quote Scripture off the top off you head, rather than having a notepad to have to refer to before you can look it up to show someone, as I have done in the past. Not that there's anything wrong with a notepad listing verses, I still carry it with me, along with my Bible, tracts and a pen. However, once you memorize the verse, you can quote it, with authority, and go right to it if you do have to show it to someone-no fumbling around. It gives non-believers a sense that you aren't just reading a list of pre-meditated, unstudied, verses, but rather this is something you know from experiential faith.
That's just my $0.02 worth. I'm sure there's a multitude of other reasons why we should memorize verses, but those two reasons are my main motivation, other than it is personally satisfying for me to memorize them. I'd love to hear other people's thoughts on it. So far I only have 16 verses memorized, but at 1-2 per week, it'll add up pretty quickly.
"JESUS Said Go Fish!!"
(then a graphic of a fish)
"He did not say to rake the leaves, mow the lawn,
walk the dog, or change the oil. Matthew 4:19"
Unfortunately that one was not big enough for my Bible, so I went with the fish story one.
I still have at least one more Bible I want to get: a facsimile copy of the 1560 Geneva Bible. This was the first Bible translated into English entirely from the original languages. So, it's a version, and not a translation.
One thing I noticed was now that I'm reading the KJV I have a desire to memorize verses. That's not to say I didn't memorize verse before, when reading other translations, I did, but now I have an increased desire to do so. Maybe it's just because the language is very poetic. Maybe it's just coincidence that I realized how important is it at about the same time I started looking into the KJVO debate. The two verses that really struck me are:
Psalm 119:11-Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.
and
1 Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give and answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear 16) Having a good conscience, that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
By memorizing God's Word-hiding it in our hearts, what do we accomplish? For me, number one is that I can carry God's Word with me, even if I'm not carrying a Bible. As I read the Bible, and things start to stick, I carry it with me. Most of the time it's just the concept that sticks. However, when you memorize the verse, and something happens that brings that verse to mind, you can actually quote it to yourself and mediate on it right there, without having to look it up to get the wording right.
Secondly, when witnessing, it's more effective, in my opinion, to be able to quote Scripture off the top off you head, rather than having a notepad to have to refer to before you can look it up to show someone, as I have done in the past. Not that there's anything wrong with a notepad listing verses, I still carry it with me, along with my Bible, tracts and a pen. However, once you memorize the verse, you can quote it, with authority, and go right to it if you do have to show it to someone-no fumbling around. It gives non-believers a sense that you aren't just reading a list of pre-meditated, unstudied, verses, but rather this is something you know from experiential faith.
That's just my $0.02 worth. I'm sure there's a multitude of other reasons why we should memorize verses, but those two reasons are my main motivation, other than it is personally satisfying for me to memorize them. I'd love to hear other people's thoughts on it. So far I only have 16 verses memorized, but at 1-2 per week, it'll add up pretty quickly.
Tuesday, August 19, 2008
King James Version Only? Yes!!!
Howdy Y'all,
When I asked Jesus Christ to be my Lord and Savior on September 23 of last year I didn't even own a Bible. Part of my obsessive compulsive nature is to research every aspect of something before making a decision to buy, or before deciding follow a certain path. I did this with choosing a Bible, as well as determining what Christian denomination, if any, I would most likely receive the truth of the Bible from. After all, our Christian walk is a quest for truth, and that truth comes from the Word of God. Therefore I decided to attend Independent Fundamental Baptist churches, and Non-denominational churches based in the general Baptist beliefs, based of course on my (sometimes errant) presuppositions, and my ever-present conservative world view. For me this was a good choice. I'm not saying others are wrong, though some denominations are in some respects, but rather that for me the Baptist faith most closely aligns with my beliefs and relies solely on the Bible for its authority, teaching directly from the Word of God, which for me is my source of truth.
Unfortunately I did not do enough in-depth research into choosing a Bible. After two weeks of research in trying to decide which translation to get, I finally broke down and bought a $5 New King James Version from Wal-Mart just so I had a Bible to read. (Now are you beginning to understand the kind of crazy person my wonderful wife puts up with?) After about another two weeks I finally decided the NASB was the "best" translation, based on what I had read. True, it is the best translation....of the worst texts. I'll explain that statement below.
I also decided I was not going to limit myself to just one Bible, so I picked up, and still have:
King James Version (KJV)
Thompson Chain Reference
Thomas Nelson Study Bible
World Publishing (Thomas Nelson) Commentary Bible
Nave's Topical Bible
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
Zondervan Study Bible
Ryrie Study Bible
New King James Version (NKJV)
English Standard Version (ESV)
Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
Recovery Version (New Testament only)
New International Version (NIV)
New Living Translation (NLT)
Now, I should say I was aware of the KJVO debate, but did not look into it much for a few reasons. For one, I didn't care for the "archaic" language, so I was biased towards the easier to read newer versions prior to my investigation. Also, I thought the KJVO position was just a crock of dung, made up by hardcore fundamentalsits. I mistakenly thought that the Textus Receptus, that the KJV is based off of, was handed down by the Catholics, so it must be corrupt. That was a major erroneous presumption on my part. However, the tipping point was that fact that I read that somewhere that the NASB is the most accurate and readable word-for word translation. It just goes to show you can't always believe everything you read.
Now, I do not want to go into too many details because it will be best for you to go to the website listed below and read the booklet, or better yet print it off and read it. However I will give a very basic premise and the reason why I really needed to find this booklet.
I had read on blogs, in pamphlets and heard from other people that the KJV is not corrupt, whereas all other versions are corrupt. No one really ever explained it to me, and everything I had read claimed this, but offered little proof. Then, of course, you get into technical terms, such as Alexandrian Text, Uncials, Byzantine Text, Textus Receptus (TR), Majority Text, Minority Text, Sinaiticus, Vaticanus and ad nauseum. What I was running into was too much information, at too high a level, for me to grasp without at least some explanation included. Then I found the website at the bottom of this post. Thanks be to God!!!
Basically there are two lines of text that all Bibles (NT) come from. One is the TR or Byzantine Text, which the KJV is based off of, and the Alexandrian Text: Uncials (Sinaiticus and Vaticanus) which are corrupt Egyptian texts that Wescott and Hort used to pervert the Word of God. Wescott and Hort's work is what ALL newer versions of the Bible are based on, by way of Rudolph Kittel's use of their work for his Biblia Hebraica and the BH Stuttgartensia. The OT texts also vary, but you'll see that in the booklet. It breaks everything down for you, giving you the history and making it understandable, even to an extreme novice like me.
This all started with a comment by, and conversation with, my pastor. After talking with the pastor from another Baptist church I attend, I decided to research it myself. After searching and reading for hours every day for about two weeks, I have decided that the KJO crowd definitely makes sense now. This does not mean I will get rid of my Bibles, as my NASB, HCSB and Recovery Versions do have some value in that they do at least provide the missing verses within the text, and can provide a present-age language reference (as well as their commentaries) for my studies in the KJV, but the KJV will be my Bible for study, be it doctrinal or general study. This is a personal choice, one some may not agree with, but I'm OK with that. I do plan to get rid of the ESV, NIV and NLT, as they are pieces of garbage that are not fit to be on my bookshelf. Look up Matthew 17:21 in one of these. Then look up Acts 8:37. Where are these verses? At the bottom of the page, that's where. They claim the these verses do not belong there, although the majority of texts have them (about 5000), the two main corrupt texts (and maybe only 50 total) don't, so therefore these verses don't belong in their Bible. Hogwash!! Additionally numerous changes, be it references to Christ's deity, or verses related to major doctrines, have been watered down or taken out completely. Can you trust a Bible like that? I can't. Read the booklet, do other research, and decide for yourself.
Here's the website. At the top of the page there's a link you can click to download the entire booklet as one file. Otherwise, you can just click on "Introduction" under "Part One" and read through it online. If you print it up (without references) it's about 52 pages for all 3 parts, or 43 pages for just part one, which is where the majority of pertinent information is.
http://atschool.eduweb.co.uk/SBS777/vital/kjv/index.html
God Bless,
Brian
When I asked Jesus Christ to be my Lord and Savior on September 23 of last year I didn't even own a Bible. Part of my obsessive compulsive nature is to research every aspect of something before making a decision to buy, or before deciding follow a certain path. I did this with choosing a Bible, as well as determining what Christian denomination, if any, I would most likely receive the truth of the Bible from. After all, our Christian walk is a quest for truth, and that truth comes from the Word of God. Therefore I decided to attend Independent Fundamental Baptist churches, and Non-denominational churches based in the general Baptist beliefs, based of course on my (sometimes errant) presuppositions, and my ever-present conservative world view. For me this was a good choice. I'm not saying others are wrong, though some denominations are in some respects, but rather that for me the Baptist faith most closely aligns with my beliefs and relies solely on the Bible for its authority, teaching directly from the Word of God, which for me is my source of truth.
Unfortunately I did not do enough in-depth research into choosing a Bible. After two weeks of research in trying to decide which translation to get, I finally broke down and bought a $5 New King James Version from Wal-Mart just so I had a Bible to read. (Now are you beginning to understand the kind of crazy person my wonderful wife puts up with?) After about another two weeks I finally decided the NASB was the "best" translation, based on what I had read. True, it is the best translation....of the worst texts. I'll explain that statement below.
I also decided I was not going to limit myself to just one Bible, so I picked up, and still have:
King James Version (KJV)
Thompson Chain Reference
Thomas Nelson Study Bible
World Publishing (Thomas Nelson) Commentary Bible
Nave's Topical Bible
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
Zondervan Study Bible
Ryrie Study Bible
New King James Version (NKJV)
English Standard Version (ESV)
Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
Recovery Version (New Testament only)
New International Version (NIV)
New Living Translation (NLT)
Now, I should say I was aware of the KJVO debate, but did not look into it much for a few reasons. For one, I didn't care for the "archaic" language, so I was biased towards the easier to read newer versions prior to my investigation. Also, I thought the KJVO position was just a crock of dung, made up by hardcore fundamentalsits. I mistakenly thought that the Textus Receptus, that the KJV is based off of, was handed down by the Catholics, so it must be corrupt. That was a major erroneous presumption on my part. However, the tipping point was that fact that I read that somewhere that the NASB is the most accurate and readable word-for word translation. It just goes to show you can't always believe everything you read.
Now, I do not want to go into too many details because it will be best for you to go to the website listed below and read the booklet, or better yet print it off and read it. However I will give a very basic premise and the reason why I really needed to find this booklet.
I had read on blogs, in pamphlets and heard from other people that the KJV is not corrupt, whereas all other versions are corrupt. No one really ever explained it to me, and everything I had read claimed this, but offered little proof. Then, of course, you get into technical terms, such as Alexandrian Text, Uncials, Byzantine Text, Textus Receptus (TR), Majority Text, Minority Text, Sinaiticus, Vaticanus and ad nauseum. What I was running into was too much information, at too high a level, for me to grasp without at least some explanation included. Then I found the website at the bottom of this post. Thanks be to God!!!
Basically there are two lines of text that all Bibles (NT) come from. One is the TR or Byzantine Text, which the KJV is based off of, and the Alexandrian Text: Uncials (Sinaiticus and Vaticanus) which are corrupt Egyptian texts that Wescott and Hort used to pervert the Word of God. Wescott and Hort's work is what ALL newer versions of the Bible are based on, by way of Rudolph Kittel's use of their work for his Biblia Hebraica and the BH Stuttgartensia. The OT texts also vary, but you'll see that in the booklet. It breaks everything down for you, giving you the history and making it understandable, even to an extreme novice like me.
This all started with a comment by, and conversation with, my pastor. After talking with the pastor from another Baptist church I attend, I decided to research it myself. After searching and reading for hours every day for about two weeks, I have decided that the KJO crowd definitely makes sense now. This does not mean I will get rid of my Bibles, as my NASB, HCSB and Recovery Versions do have some value in that they do at least provide the missing verses within the text, and can provide a present-age language reference (as well as their commentaries) for my studies in the KJV, but the KJV will be my Bible for study, be it doctrinal or general study. This is a personal choice, one some may not agree with, but I'm OK with that. I do plan to get rid of the ESV, NIV and NLT, as they are pieces of garbage that are not fit to be on my bookshelf. Look up Matthew 17:21 in one of these. Then look up Acts 8:37. Where are these verses? At the bottom of the page, that's where. They claim the these verses do not belong there, although the majority of texts have them (about 5000), the two main corrupt texts (and maybe only 50 total) don't, so therefore these verses don't belong in their Bible. Hogwash!! Additionally numerous changes, be it references to Christ's deity, or verses related to major doctrines, have been watered down or taken out completely. Can you trust a Bible like that? I can't. Read the booklet, do other research, and decide for yourself.
Here's the website. At the top of the page there's a link you can click to download the entire booklet as one file. Otherwise, you can just click on "Introduction" under "Part One" and read through it online. If you print it up (without references) it's about 52 pages for all 3 parts, or 43 pages for just part one, which is where the majority of pertinent information is.
http://atschool.eduweb.co.uk/SBS777/vital/kjv/index.html
God Bless,
Brian
Tuesday, June 3, 2008
Been a while...
Quite a while, for that matter. Finally finished school for the semester. I have four classes left until I graduate next May. I'll have 3 in Fall, and then one last class in Spring of 2009. Woo Hoo!!
There's been quite a bit going on, both in my life and in the world. I'll touch on my life in this post.
We finally found a church that we all like, and are all excited to go to. It's an Independent Fundamental Baptist Church. Most importantly they are a hardcore Bible believing church, but they have a lot of other good things going on there which makes it a good fit for us. The Pastor gives very good message straight from the Bible, but does it in a way that you learn and retain what was said, unlike some of the other churches we've been to. Enough on that for now.
Turns out that it wasn't that my family didn't like the previous Baptist church, but rather they didn't like who I was becoming at that church. Basically I was being a jerk: controlling, self-centered, pushy, nit-picky and etc., so my wife and family were pissed, and rightfully so I might add. We had a long talk (my wife and I), and I finally realized what I had put them through, and that I can't expect them to act a certain way, nor can I push my beliefs or habits on them. It was a huge eye-opener, and I felt really bad about it, but we came to an agreement, and everything is fine now. We did try going back to the original Baptist church for two weeks before we found this current one. We weren't really getting anything out of it, so I did a search and found this one. They happened to have a Bible study that night, so we went, and right away we knew this was the church for us.
For my Bible reading quest, I'm currently in I Samuel, and getting ready to start Hebrews. I'm also and in the process of reading Charles Ryrie's "Basic Theology". I have decided that two of the Systematic Theology books I bought will probably never be read, so I'll probably re-sell them on ebay, but I haven't decided 100% for sure yet. I have Charles Ryrie, John Calvin (2: 1536 and 1559 Editions of Institutes), Louis Berkhof, Robert Lightner, James Boyce, Augustus Strong, J.L Dagg, R. L Dabney and A.A. Hodge. The last two being the ones I'm thinking of getting rid of. In addition to these, I also have a number of other books coving other subjects such as Apologetics, Hermeneutics, commentaries and etc. Plenty to keep me reading for years.
Went in for my annual eye exam, turns out my left eye has an astigmatism, and my right eye was -.75 worse than previously(and -.50 worse than my left), so now I can actually see very clearly. Hopefully this will help me whack more ducks this year!! Less than 3 months to hunting season!!!
Skipped turkey hunting this year, and I'm skipping my annual Kansas City Rally. I have more important things to take care of, so i'm just enjoying spending time with the family in getting into God's Word. My little one learned how to ride a bicycle, so we've doing a lot of cycling. The first day we rode to my parents house that is over two miles away!!! it took us about 1 1/2 hours, but she made it. My Dad gave us a ride back home, but now she has a bigger bike, so she could make it both ways no problem. 2 weekends ago we found a trail in the woods at the park that has BMX jumps, ramps and stuff, so I had some fun!!
Harley's 105th Anniversary is coming up, so I have some friends coming in to stay with us. I'm Looking forward to it, but not like 5 years ago when I first got the bike. The bike will be paid off next month, only one more payment and it's 100% mine (Yes, Dear, I know, "Ours, not "Mine") LOL
Well, I suppose that's enough for tonight. I'll try to update again soon, and hit some of the issues in the headlines, such as the FLDS Ranch/CPS fiasco, the Presidential Election, the California Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage, and other things.
There's been quite a bit going on, both in my life and in the world. I'll touch on my life in this post.
We finally found a church that we all like, and are all excited to go to. It's an Independent Fundamental Baptist Church. Most importantly they are a hardcore Bible believing church, but they have a lot of other good things going on there which makes it a good fit for us. The Pastor gives very good message straight from the Bible, but does it in a way that you learn and retain what was said, unlike some of the other churches we've been to. Enough on that for now.
Turns out that it wasn't that my family didn't like the previous Baptist church, but rather they didn't like who I was becoming at that church. Basically I was being a jerk: controlling, self-centered, pushy, nit-picky and etc., so my wife and family were pissed, and rightfully so I might add. We had a long talk (my wife and I), and I finally realized what I had put them through, and that I can't expect them to act a certain way, nor can I push my beliefs or habits on them. It was a huge eye-opener, and I felt really bad about it, but we came to an agreement, and everything is fine now. We did try going back to the original Baptist church for two weeks before we found this current one. We weren't really getting anything out of it, so I did a search and found this one. They happened to have a Bible study that night, so we went, and right away we knew this was the church for us.
For my Bible reading quest, I'm currently in I Samuel, and getting ready to start Hebrews. I'm also and in the process of reading Charles Ryrie's "Basic Theology". I have decided that two of the Systematic Theology books I bought will probably never be read, so I'll probably re-sell them on ebay, but I haven't decided 100% for sure yet. I have Charles Ryrie, John Calvin (2: 1536 and 1559 Editions of Institutes), Louis Berkhof, Robert Lightner, James Boyce, Augustus Strong, J.L Dagg, R. L Dabney and A.A. Hodge. The last two being the ones I'm thinking of getting rid of. In addition to these, I also have a number of other books coving other subjects such as Apologetics, Hermeneutics, commentaries and etc. Plenty to keep me reading for years.
Went in for my annual eye exam, turns out my left eye has an astigmatism, and my right eye was -.75 worse than previously(and -.50 worse than my left), so now I can actually see very clearly. Hopefully this will help me whack more ducks this year!! Less than 3 months to hunting season!!!
Skipped turkey hunting this year, and I'm skipping my annual Kansas City Rally. I have more important things to take care of, so i'm just enjoying spending time with the family in getting into God's Word. My little one learned how to ride a bicycle, so we've doing a lot of cycling. The first day we rode to my parents house that is over two miles away!!! it took us about 1 1/2 hours, but she made it. My Dad gave us a ride back home, but now she has a bigger bike, so she could make it both ways no problem. 2 weekends ago we found a trail in the woods at the park that has BMX jumps, ramps and stuff, so I had some fun!!
Harley's 105th Anniversary is coming up, so I have some friends coming in to stay with us. I'm Looking forward to it, but not like 5 years ago when I first got the bike. The bike will be paid off next month, only one more payment and it's 100% mine (Yes, Dear, I know, "Ours, not "Mine") LOL
Well, I suppose that's enough for tonight. I'll try to update again soon, and hit some of the issues in the headlines, such as the FLDS Ranch/CPS fiasco, the Presidential Election, the California Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage, and other things.
Monday, February 25, 2008
Church, Iraq and whatever else comes to mind
Well I guess we've come to an agreement. I like the Baptist church, and everyone else prefers the Assemblies of God church, so we'll just go to separate churches. It's not that my family doesn't like the Baptist church, they just like the AOG better. It's not a big deal, I was just hoping we could find one everyone likes. Oh well.
I sort of witnessed to my best friend (the best man at my wedding) on Saturday when he came over for me to order some stuff for him off ebay. I basically told him I love him like a brother, didn't want to see anything bad happen to him, gave him some tracts, and asked him to read them. He doesn't like to be preached to, and I told him I can understand that, but I was the same way, and what I've found has made me a completely new man, much different from before. He got in a fight with his neighbor outside the bar up north at the cabin. Now he has a broken eye socket and has to go for plastic surgery. I know he has seen the change, so at least the seed is planted. I guess it's up to God to make it grow, of course with a little watering along the way from me.
I am so sick of anti-Bush people using the "war" in Iraq to complain about George Bush Jr. and Sr. I was in Desert Storm, and we should have finished it then, but the UN stopped us. (Persuaded Sr. to stop at the border) Saddam was a brutal dictator, and needed to be taken out. Period.
This link below takes you to a page with links to some of his handiwork. Some of it is very gruesome, but if you can stomach it, please take look. Chapter 4 may be all you need to watch, which isn't too gruesome, it's footage of dead bodies of some of the 50,000 to 100,000 Kurds (his own Iraqi residents) that he gassed. The others are beatings, amputations, and executions, and these are not for the squeamish, definitely not for kids, as the site says.
Click Here
Now I think a better option would've been to send in a sniper and put one bullet through his head, but that's not how it happened. That would've plunged them into civil war even faster, but I suppose only God knows what would've happened.
Once the Democrat President (probably Obama) takes office, we will pull out, and Iraq will be plunged into civil war, possibly resulting in WWIII. This is just my opinion, so let's hope I'm wrong.
Why aren't we in Dafur? I just don't get it.... Yes we are the world's police, like it or not, that just comes with being the strongest world power. Imagine if Hitler would've went unopposed. Don't get me wrong, I don't like war, but if it's necessary for the betterment of the world, then we must remain our brother's keeper.
Next question: which Democrat to vote for: McCain or Obama.......LOL
No I do not like McCain. It would've been nice if Huckabee would've made it, and he's still pushing on, but I can foresee McCain coming away with the nomination. Sad, I know, but whatchya gonna do? I can't bring myself to vote for a Democrat, but McCain? I don't know. I guess we'll see....
Well, gotta go read my chapter for tomorrow's Financial Accounting class, and then I might try to finish Joshua. Then it's on to Romans.
I sort of witnessed to my best friend (the best man at my wedding) on Saturday when he came over for me to order some stuff for him off ebay. I basically told him I love him like a brother, didn't want to see anything bad happen to him, gave him some tracts, and asked him to read them. He doesn't like to be preached to, and I told him I can understand that, but I was the same way, and what I've found has made me a completely new man, much different from before. He got in a fight with his neighbor outside the bar up north at the cabin. Now he has a broken eye socket and has to go for plastic surgery. I know he has seen the change, so at least the seed is planted. I guess it's up to God to make it grow, of course with a little watering along the way from me.
I am so sick of anti-Bush people using the "war" in Iraq to complain about George Bush Jr. and Sr. I was in Desert Storm, and we should have finished it then, but the UN stopped us. (Persuaded Sr. to stop at the border) Saddam was a brutal dictator, and needed to be taken out. Period.
This link below takes you to a page with links to some of his handiwork. Some of it is very gruesome, but if you can stomach it, please take look. Chapter 4 may be all you need to watch, which isn't too gruesome, it's footage of dead bodies of some of the 50,000 to 100,000 Kurds (his own Iraqi residents) that he gassed. The others are beatings, amputations, and executions, and these are not for the squeamish, definitely not for kids, as the site says.
Click Here
Now I think a better option would've been to send in a sniper and put one bullet through his head, but that's not how it happened. That would've plunged them into civil war even faster, but I suppose only God knows what would've happened.
Once the Democrat President (probably Obama) takes office, we will pull out, and Iraq will be plunged into civil war, possibly resulting in WWIII. This is just my opinion, so let's hope I'm wrong.
Why aren't we in Dafur? I just don't get it.... Yes we are the world's police, like it or not, that just comes with being the strongest world power. Imagine if Hitler would've went unopposed. Don't get me wrong, I don't like war, but if it's necessary for the betterment of the world, then we must remain our brother's keeper.
Next question: which Democrat to vote for: McCain or Obama.......LOL
No I do not like McCain. It would've been nice if Huckabee would've made it, and he's still pushing on, but I can foresee McCain coming away with the nomination. Sad, I know, but whatchya gonna do? I can't bring myself to vote for a Democrat, but McCain? I don't know. I guess we'll see....
Well, gotta go read my chapter for tomorrow's Financial Accounting class, and then I might try to finish Joshua. Then it's on to Romans.
Sunday, February 17, 2008
New Church, Christian Bands
Well, as mentioned in comments on previous posts, we decided to start attending a different church. The old one was nice, and the people there are very nice, but it was just too small and didn't have a lot for the kids. That and it was somewhat disorganized.
This new one is awesome. They are a hardcore fundamental Bible-based Baptist church. The people there are also very nice. Their Bible-study is awesome, and the whole church is very well organized. They have the Kids4Truth program on Wednesday nights that my youngest and my niece are now going to, and they love it.
We met a home-schooling family there who lives four blocks away, and there are a quite a few other home-schooling families there too. One of the guys is "discipling" me, where we go over the basic doctrines of the Bible, from the Bible. Pretty basic stuff, but there's always more to learn about it.
All-in-all we're very happy with this church. I had been checking out their website for a while, and finally got a chance to go. Their friendliness was almost weird at first. I'd say that first Wednesday night I probably had about 50-60 people come up individually and introduce themselves. Then I took the family there the following Sunday, Superbowl night, and they really liked it. Most importantly the Church, and the people that attend, are very Christ-centered.
My oldest daughter is in Maryland right now, training for Americorps NCCC (National Civilian Community Corps), and is going to Biloxi, MS for her first "spike" (camp), and will be working with Habitat for Humanity. Very cool!! I'm almost jealous...almost...at least the part about going to Mississippi. Can't you just imagine the duck hunting down there?!!!
I've been listening to WFZH "The Fish" (which as of Friday is now K Love), a local Christian Station, and have gotten into some Christian Bands. I just bought the Casting Crowns newest album yesterday, and I added some other tracks I like to my playlist. I hope you enjoy them. "In Wonder" by the Newsboys is my favorite right now.
This new one is awesome. They are a hardcore fundamental Bible-based Baptist church. The people there are also very nice. Their Bible-study is awesome, and the whole church is very well organized. They have the Kids4Truth program on Wednesday nights that my youngest and my niece are now going to, and they love it.
We met a home-schooling family there who lives four blocks away, and there are a quite a few other home-schooling families there too. One of the guys is "discipling" me, where we go over the basic doctrines of the Bible, from the Bible. Pretty basic stuff, but there's always more to learn about it.
All-in-all we're very happy with this church. I had been checking out their website for a while, and finally got a chance to go. Their friendliness was almost weird at first. I'd say that first Wednesday night I probably had about 50-60 people come up individually and introduce themselves. Then I took the family there the following Sunday, Superbowl night, and they really liked it. Most importantly the Church, and the people that attend, are very Christ-centered.
My oldest daughter is in Maryland right now, training for Americorps NCCC (National Civilian Community Corps), and is going to Biloxi, MS for her first "spike" (camp), and will be working with Habitat for Humanity. Very cool!! I'm almost jealous...almost...at least the part about going to Mississippi. Can't you just imagine the duck hunting down there?!!!
I've been listening to WFZH "The Fish" (which as of Friday is now K Love), a local Christian Station, and have gotten into some Christian Bands. I just bought the Casting Crowns newest album yesterday, and I added some other tracks I like to my playlist. I hope you enjoy them. "In Wonder" by the Newsboys is my favorite right now.
Tuesday, January 15, 2008
Baptism, Trains and Etc.
It's been a while since I posted, and a lot has happened since then. Most important was my wife, my youngest daughter and I getting baptized on 12-23-07. This was exactly 3 months after coming back to Christ. I was at the church the day before to see if I could fix the water heater for the baptismal tub, but no dice. Therefore they brought in a propane stove and heated some water to get it up to about 60 degrees (from about 34 degree when we filled it up part way). The little one squealed "OOH IT's COLD!!" when she got in. LOL!!
I am now in Romans and Deuteronomy for my quest to read the Bible for the first time. The first day of my vacation I went and got a KJV of the Thompson Chain reference Bible-very cool, but I still like my NASB best for study, and my HCSB for daily reading. I also picked up John Calvin's "Institutes of Christian Religion", Charles Spurgeon's "Morning and Evening", Paul Little's "Know What You Believe", A.W. Pink's "The Sovereignty of God' and was given Charles Swindoll's "Grace Awakening".
I am still going to my church, a non-denominational, but that is based in, and is closest to, the Baptist doctrines. My wife and kids are going to the Pentecostal church they like. I erroneously used to think we all had to go to the same church, but quickly came to the conclusion that what was good for me may not be good for them, and if they really love the other church, which they do, and as long as it teaches Christ is the only requirement for salvation, which it does, then it doesn't matter if we attend 2 different churches.
Our computer started taking a poop right before Christmas, and I worked on my trains for 6 of the 11 days I was off, so I didn't really spend any time online during that time. The first 5 days were spent doing family and church stuff, as well as buying a new washer and dryer (dryer also took a poop), and I never had new washers or dryers. I always got free used ones I had to fix to get running or keep running, so I bit the bullet and got a new set. I also picked up a new tower, and bought the wife a new laptop so I could have the one I typing this post up on. ;~)
I got quite a bit done on my trains, but not as much as I had hoped. I am about half way done with laying track, and tonight I surpassed the half-way point of building my rail yard. There are 8 tracks going through the yard: 2 main lines (one in each direction, 1 arrival/departure track, 4 classification tracks and 1 intermodal track. Quite impressive if I do say so myself. Once I get the yard done I can finish one complete loop in a matter of 2-3 days. My layout is 84+ square feet: 2.5 8' by 4' plywood sheets. I'm pretty happy with the plan I came up with. Eventually I'll post some pictures on here.
I am now in Romans and Deuteronomy for my quest to read the Bible for the first time. The first day of my vacation I went and got a KJV of the Thompson Chain reference Bible-very cool, but I still like my NASB best for study, and my HCSB for daily reading. I also picked up John Calvin's "Institutes of Christian Religion", Charles Spurgeon's "Morning and Evening", Paul Little's "Know What You Believe", A.W. Pink's "The Sovereignty of God' and was given Charles Swindoll's "Grace Awakening".
I am still going to my church, a non-denominational, but that is based in, and is closest to, the Baptist doctrines. My wife and kids are going to the Pentecostal church they like. I erroneously used to think we all had to go to the same church, but quickly came to the conclusion that what was good for me may not be good for them, and if they really love the other church, which they do, and as long as it teaches Christ is the only requirement for salvation, which it does, then it doesn't matter if we attend 2 different churches.
Our computer started taking a poop right before Christmas, and I worked on my trains for 6 of the 11 days I was off, so I didn't really spend any time online during that time. The first 5 days were spent doing family and church stuff, as well as buying a new washer and dryer (dryer also took a poop), and I never had new washers or dryers. I always got free used ones I had to fix to get running or keep running, so I bit the bullet and got a new set. I also picked up a new tower, and bought the wife a new laptop so I could have the one I typing this post up on. ;~)
I got quite a bit done on my trains, but not as much as I had hoped. I am about half way done with laying track, and tonight I surpassed the half-way point of building my rail yard. There are 8 tracks going through the yard: 2 main lines (one in each direction, 1 arrival/departure track, 4 classification tracks and 1 intermodal track. Quite impressive if I do say so myself. Once I get the yard done I can finish one complete loop in a matter of 2-3 days. My layout is 84+ square feet: 2.5 8' by 4' plywood sheets. I'm pretty happy with the plan I came up with. Eventually I'll post some pictures on here.
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